diff --git a/Terminal.Gui/Core/Border.cs b/Terminal.Gui/Core/Border.cs
index 0abe6aabe..9f17835db 100644
--- a/Terminal.Gui/Core/Border.cs
+++ b/Terminal.Gui/Core/Border.cs
@@ -103,6 +103,59 @@ namespace Terminal.Gui {
 			return new Rect (new Point (rect.X + Left, rect.Y + Top), size);
 		}
 
+
+		/// <summary>
+		/// Draws the thickness rectangle with an optional diagnostics label.
+		/// </summary>
+		/// <param name="rect">The location and size of the rectangle that bounds the thickness rectangle, in 
+		/// screen coordinates.</param>
+		/// <param name="label">The diagnostics label to draw on the bottom of the <see cref="Bottom"/>.</param>
+		/// <returns>The inner rectangle remaining to be drawn.</returns>
+		public Rect Draw (Rect rect, string label = null)
+		{
+			// Draw the Top side
+			for (var r = rect.Y; r < Math.Min (rect.Y + rect.Height, rect.Y + Top); r++) {
+				for (var c = rect.X; c < rect.X + rect.Width; c++) {
+					Application.Driver.Move (c, r);
+					Application.Driver.AddRune (' ');
+				}
+			}
+
+			// Draw the Left side
+			for (var r = rect.Y; r < rect.Y + rect.Height; r++) {
+				for (var c = rect.X; c < Math.Min (rect.X + rect.Width, rect.X + Left); c++) {
+					Application.Driver.Move (c, r);
+					Application.Driver.AddRune (' ');
+				}
+			}
+
+			// Draw the Right side			
+			for (var r = rect.Y; r < rect.Y + rect.Height; r++) {
+				for (var c = rect.X + Math.Max (0, rect.Width - Right); c < rect.X + rect.Width; c++) {
+					Application.Driver.Move (c, r);
+					Application.Driver.AddRune (' ');
+				}
+			}
+
+			// Draw the Bottom side
+			for (var r = rect.Y + Math.Max (0, rect.Height - Bottom); r < rect.Y + rect.Height; r++) {
+				for (var c = rect.X; c < rect.X + rect.Width; c++) {
+					Application.Driver.Move (c, r);
+					Application.Driver.AddRune (' ');
+				}
+			}
+
+			// Draw the diagnostics label on the bottom
+			var tf = new TextFormatter () {
+				Text = label == null ? string.Empty : $"{label} {this}",
+				Alignment = TextAlignment.Centered,
+				VerticalAlignment = VerticalTextAlignment.Bottom
+			};
+			tf.Draw (rect, Application.Driver.CurrentAttribute, Application.Driver.CurrentAttribute);
+
+			return GetInnerRect (rect);
+
+		}
 		// TODO: add operator overloads
 		/// <summary>
 		/// Gets an empty thickness.
diff --git a/Terminal.Gui/Core/Container.cs b/Terminal.Gui/Core/Container.cs
index aec05fa69..71e08e390 100644
--- a/Terminal.Gui/Core/Container.cs
+++ b/Terminal.Gui/Core/Container.cs
@@ -7,32 +7,33 @@ using Terminal.Gui.Graphs;
 
 namespace Terminal.Gui {
 
-	public class Container : View {
-		public Container ()
+	public class Frame : View {
+
+		public Frame ()
 		{
 			IgnoreBorderPropertyOnRedraw = true;
 		}
 
 		public virtual void OnDrawSubViews (Rect clipRect)
 		{
-			if (Subviews == null) {
-				return;
-			}
+		//	if (Subviews == null) {
+		//		return;
+		//	}
 
-			foreach (var view in Subviews) {
-				// BUGBUG: v2 - shouldn't this be !view.LayoutNeeded? Why draw if layout is going to happen and we'll just draw again?
-				if (view.LayoutNeeded) {
-					view.LayoutSubviews ();
-				}
-				if ((view.Visible && !view.NeedDisplay.IsEmpty && view.Frame.Width > 0 && view.Frame.Height > 0) || view.ChildNeedsDisplay) {
-					view.Redraw (view.Bounds);
+		//	foreach (var view in Subviews) {
+		//		// BUGBUG: v2 - shouldn't this be !view.LayoutNeeded? Why draw if layout is going to happen and we'll just draw again?
+		//		if (view.LayoutNeeded) {
+		//			view.LayoutSubviews ();
+		//		}
+		//		if ((view.Visible && !view.NeedDisplay.IsEmpty && view.Frame.Width > 0 && view.Frame.Height > 0) || view.ChildNeedsDisplay) {
+		//			view.Redraw (view.Bounds);
 
-					view.NeedDisplay = Rect.Empty;
-					// BUGBUG - v2 why does this need to be set to false?
-					// Shouldn't it be set when the subviews draw?
-					view.ChildNeedsDisplay = false;
-				}
-			}
+		//			view.NeedDisplay = Rect.Empty;
+		//			// BUGBUG - v2 why does this need to be set to false?
+		//			// Shouldn't it be set when the subviews draw?
+		//			view.ChildNeedsDisplay = false;
+		//		}
+		//	}
 
 		}
 
@@ -54,25 +55,40 @@ namespace Terminal.Gui {
 
 		public override void Redraw (Rect bounds)
 		{
-			if (!CanBeVisible (this)) {
-				return;
-			}
+			
+			//OnDrawContent (bounds);
+			//OnDrawSubViews (bounds);
+			//OnDrawContentComplete (bounds);
 
 			if (ColorScheme != null) {
-				Driver.SetAttribute (HasFocus ? ColorScheme.Focus : ColorScheme.Normal);
+				Driver.SetAttribute (ColorScheme.Normal);
 			}
 
-			OnDrawContent (bounds);
-			OnDrawSubViews (bounds);
-			OnDrawContentComplete (bounds);
+			Thickness.Draw (Frame, (string)Data);
+
+			//OnDrawContent (bounds); 
+
+			//if (Text != null) {
+			//	Thickness?.Draw (Frame, $"{Text} {DiagnosticsLabel?.Text}");
+			//}
+			if (BorderStyle != BorderStyle.None) {
+				var lc = new LineCanvas ();
+				lc.AddLine (Frame.Location, Frame.Width - 1, Orientation.Horizontal, BorderStyle);
+				lc.AddLine (Frame.Location, Frame.Height - 1, Orientation.Vertical, BorderStyle);
+
+				lc.AddLine (new Point (Frame.X, Frame.Y + Frame.Height - 1), Frame.Width - 1, Orientation.Horizontal, BorderStyle);
+				lc.AddLine (new Point (Frame.X + Frame.Width - 1, Frame.Y), Frame.Height - 1, Orientation.Vertical, BorderStyle);
+				foreach (var p in lc.GenerateImage (Frame)) {
+					Driver.Move (p.Key.X, p.Key.Y);
+					Driver.AddRune (p.Value);
+				}
+
+				if (!ustring.IsNullOrEmpty (Title)) {
+					Driver.DrawWindowTitle (Frame, Title, 0, 0, 0, 0);
+				}
+			}
 		}
 
-	}
-
-	/// <summary>
-	/// A <see cref="Container"/> used for the rectangles that compose the outer frames of a <see cref="View"/>.
-	/// </summary>
-	public class Frame : Container {
 		//public Label DiagnosticsLabel { get; set; }
 		// TODO: v2 = This is teporary; need to also enable (or not) simple way of setting 
 		// other border properties
@@ -100,39 +116,40 @@ namespace Terminal.Gui {
 			}
 		}
 
-		public override void OnDrawContent (Rect viewport)
-		{
-			// do nothing
-		}
+		//public override void OnDrawContent (Rect viewport)
+		//{
+		//	// do nothing
+		//}
 
-		public override void Redraw (Rect bounds)
-		{
-			if (ColorScheme != null) {
-				Driver.SetAttribute (HasFocus ? ColorScheme.Focus : ColorScheme.Normal);
-			}
+		//public override void Redraw (Rect bounds)
+		//{
 
-			//if (Text != null) {
-			//	Thickness?.Draw (Frame, $"{Text} {DiagnosticsLabel?.Text}");
-			//}
-			if (BorderStyle != BorderStyle.None) {
-				var lc = new LineCanvas ();
-				lc.AddLine (Frame.Location, Frame.Width - 1, Orientation.Horizontal, BorderStyle);
-				lc.AddLine (Frame.Location, Frame.Height - 1, Orientation.Vertical, BorderStyle);
+		//	if (ColorScheme != null) {
+		//		Driver.SetAttribute (HasFocus ? ColorScheme.Focus : ColorScheme.Normal);
+		//	}
 
-				lc.AddLine (new Point (Frame.X, Frame.Y + Frame.Height - 1), Frame.Width - 1, Orientation.Horizontal, BorderStyle);
-				lc.AddLine (new Point (Frame.X + Frame.Width - 1, Frame.Y), Frame.Height - 1, Orientation.Vertical, BorderStyle);
-				foreach (var p in lc.GenerateImage (Frame)) {
-					Driver.Move (p.Key.X, p.Key.Y);
-					Driver.AddRune (p.Value);
-				}
+		//	//if (Text != null) {
+		//	//	Thickness?.Draw (Frame, $"{Text} {DiagnosticsLabel?.Text}");
+		//	//}
+		//	if (BorderStyle != BorderStyle.None) {
+		//		var lc = new LineCanvas ();
+		//		lc.AddLine (Frame.Location, Frame.Width - 1, Orientation.Horizontal, BorderStyle);
+		//		lc.AddLine (Frame.Location, Frame.Height - 1, Orientation.Vertical, BorderStyle);
 
-				if (!ustring.IsNullOrEmpty (Title)) {
-					Driver.DrawWindowTitle (Frame, Title, 0, 0, 0, 0);
-				}
-			}
+		//		lc.AddLine (new Point (Frame.X, Frame.Y + Frame.Height - 1), Frame.Width - 1, Orientation.Horizontal, BorderStyle);
+		//		lc.AddLine (new Point (Frame.X + Frame.Width - 1, Frame.Y), Frame.Height - 1, Orientation.Vertical, BorderStyle);
+		//		foreach (var p in lc.GenerateImage (Frame)) {
+		//			Driver.Move (p.Key.X, p.Key.Y);
+		//			Driver.AddRune (p.Value);
+		//		}
 
-			base.Redraw (bounds);
-		}
+		//		if (!ustring.IsNullOrEmpty (Title)) {
+		//			Driver.DrawWindowTitle (Frame, Title, 0, 0, 0, 0);
+		//		}
+		//	}
+
+		//	base.Redraw (bounds);
+		//}
 	}
 
 }
diff --git a/Terminal.Gui/Core/View.cs b/Terminal.Gui/Core/View.cs
index 7efaa0c48..6e209d5da 100644
--- a/Terminal.Gui/Core/View.cs
+++ b/Terminal.Gui/Core/View.cs
@@ -467,15 +467,13 @@ namespace Terminal.Gui {
 			IgnoreBorderPropertyOnRedraw = true;
 			Margin?.Dispose ();
 			Margin = new Frame () {
-				Data = "Margin",
 				Thickness = new Thickness (0),
-				ColorScheme = Colors.ColorSchemes ["Error"]
+				ColorScheme = SuperView?.ColorScheme ?? ColorScheme
 			};
 			//Margin.DiagnosticsLabel.Text = "Margin";
 
 			BorderFrame?.Dispose ();
 			BorderFrame = new Frame () {
-				Data = "BorderFrame",
 				BorderStyle = BorderStyle.Single,
 				Thickness = new Thickness (0),
 				ColorScheme = ColorScheme
@@ -483,9 +481,8 @@ namespace Terminal.Gui {
 
 			Padding?.Dispose ();
 			Padding = new Frame () {
-				Data = "Padding",
 				Thickness = new Thickness (0),
-				ColorScheme = Colors.ColorSchemes ["Toplevel"]
+				ColorScheme = ColorScheme
 			};
 		}
 
diff --git a/UICatalog/Scenarios/Dialogs.cs b/UICatalog/Scenarios/Dialogs.cs
index eee8791a8..b568e9b75 100644
--- a/UICatalog/Scenarios/Dialogs.cs
+++ b/UICatalog/Scenarios/Dialogs.cs
@@ -10,14 +10,21 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 	[ScenarioCategory ("Dialogs")]
 	public class Dialogs : Scenario {
 		static int CODE_POINT = '你'; // We know this is a wide char
+		public override void Init (ColorScheme colorScheme)
+		{
+			Application.Init ();
+			Application.Top.ColorScheme = colorScheme;
+		}
+
 		public override void Setup ()
 		{
 			var frame = new FrameView ("Dialog Options") {
 				X = Pos.Center (),
 				Y = 0,
-				Width = Dim.Percent (75)
+				Width = Dim.Percent (75),
+				Height = 12
 			};
-			Win.Add (frame);
+			Application.Top.Add (frame);
 
 			var label = new Label ("width:") {
 				X = 0,
@@ -27,7 +34,7 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 				TextAlignment = Terminal.Gui.TextAlignment.Right,
 			};
 			frame.Add (label);
-			
+
 			var widthEdit = new TextField ("0") {
 				X = Pos.Right (label) + 1,
 				Y = Pos.Top (label),
@@ -44,7 +51,7 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 				TextAlignment = Terminal.Gui.TextAlignment.Right,
 			};
 			frame.Add (label);
-			
+
 			var heightEdit = new TextField ("0") {
 				X = Pos.Right (label) + 1,
 				Y = Pos.Top (label),
@@ -70,7 +77,7 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 				TextAlignment = Terminal.Gui.TextAlignment.Right,
 			};
 			frame.Add (label);
-			
+
 			var titleEdit = new TextField ("Title") {
 				X = Pos.Right (label) + 1,
 				Y = Pos.Top (label),
@@ -87,7 +94,7 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 				TextAlignment = Terminal.Gui.TextAlignment.Right,
 			};
 			frame.Add (label);
-			
+
 			var numButtonsEdit = new TextField ("3") {
 				X = Pos.Right (label) + 1,
 				Y = Pos.Top (label),
@@ -109,7 +116,7 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 				TextAlignment = Terminal.Gui.TextAlignment.Right
 			};
 			frame.Add (label);
-			
+
 			var styleRadioGroup = new RadioGroup (new ustring [] { "Center", "Justify", "Left", "Right" }) {
 				X = Pos.Right (label) + 1,
 				Y = Pos.Top (label),
@@ -118,8 +125,9 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 
 			void Top_Loaded ()
 			{
-				frame.Height = Dim.Height (widthEdit) + Dim.Height (heightEdit) + Dim.Height (titleEdit)
-					+ Dim.Height (numButtonsEdit) + Dim.Height (styleRadioGroup) + Dim.Height (glyphsNotWords) + 2;
+				// BUGBUG: This breaks with v2 ; causes TopologicalSort issue. Not sure why
+				//frame.Height = Dim.Height (widthEdit) + Dim.Height (heightEdit) + Dim.Height (titleEdit)
+				//	+ Dim.Height (numButtonsEdit) + Dim.Height (styleRadioGroup) + Dim.Height (glyphsNotWords) + 2;
 				Application.Top.Loaded -= Top_Loaded;
 			}
 			Application.Top.Loaded += Top_Loaded;
@@ -130,7 +138,7 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 				Height = 1,
 				TextAlignment = Terminal.Gui.TextAlignment.Right,
 			};
-			Win.Add (label);
+			Application.Top.Add (label);
 
 			var buttonPressedLabel = new Label (" ") {
 				X = Pos.Center (),
@@ -242,9 +250,9 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 					buttonPressedLabel.Text = "Invalid Options";
 				}
 			};
-			Win.Add (showDialogButton);
+			Application.Top.Add (showDialogButton);
 
-			Win.Add (buttonPressedLabel);
+			Application.Top.Add (buttonPressedLabel);
 		}
 	}
 }
diff --git a/UICatalog/Scenarios/View2Experiment.cs b/UICatalog/Scenarios/View2Experiment.cs
index e21fb06e6..7b31e7b92 100644
--- a/UICatalog/Scenarios/View2Experiment.cs
+++ b/UICatalog/Scenarios/View2Experiment.cs
@@ -7,8 +7,7 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 		public override void Init (ColorScheme colorScheme)
 		{
 			Application.Init ();
-
-			Application.Top.ColorScheme = Colors.Base;
+			Application.Top.ColorScheme = colorScheme;
 		}
 
 		public override void Setup ()
@@ -27,11 +26,20 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 				Width = Dim.Fill (2),
 				Title = "View2"
 			};
+			Application.Top.Add (view2);
+
 			view2.EnableFrames ();
 			view2.Margin.Thickness = new Thickness (2);
+			view2.Margin.ColorScheme = Colors.ColorSchemes ["Toplevel"];
+			view2.Margin.Data = "Margin";
 			view2.BorderFrame.Thickness = new Thickness (2);
 			view2.BorderFrame.BorderStyle = BorderStyle.Single;
+			//view2.BorderFrame.ColorScheme = view2.ColorScheme;
+			view2.BorderFrame.Data = "BorderFrame";
 			view2.Padding.Thickness = new Thickness (2);
+			view2.Padding.ColorScheme = Colors.ColorSchemes ["Error"];
+			view2.Padding.Data = "Padding";
+
 
 			containerLabel.LayoutComplete += (a) => {
 				containerLabel.Text = $"Container.Frame: {Application.Top.Frame} .Bounds: {Application.Top.Bounds}\nView2.Frame: {view2.Frame} .Bounds: {view2.Bounds}";
@@ -110,9 +118,6 @@ namespace UICatalog.Scenarios {
 			};
 			edit.X = 0;
 			view2.Add (edit);
-
-			Application.Top.Add (view2);
-
 		}
 	}
 }
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